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    Since October 2025, the U.S. has admitted more than 6,000 refugees โ€” and all but three are white South Africans. The Trump administration says Afrikaners are fleeing a "genocide." They're not. This week, we look at how we got here: a conversation with a reporter who was in the Oval Office when Trump pushed this conspiracy theory on South Africa's president โ€” and what his fixation on white South Africans reveals about anxieties over white replacement here in the U.S. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)
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