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    You've been soft coaching people. Telling them what they want to hear. Making them feel comfortable. And Eric Thomas says it's killing their future. In Episode 540, ET comes in hot after watching the Michael Jackson movie and delivers one of the most controversial takes this table has ever heard. He breaks down why Joe Jackson, for all the criticism, got six of his kids to hit the charts from Gary, Indiana. Why his own mother kicked him out at 16 and never gave him a dime. And why the people you think you're loving by being soft, you're actually destroying. CJ shares the wildest TSA story you'll ever hear involving a supplement canister, a red screen, and ET walking right through security like nothing happened. Karl brings the perspective. Jemal adds the context. And ET lays out the hard truth that most leaders are too scared to say out loud. You're not loving people when you lie to them. You're not helping them when you coddle them. And if someone can't lead their own life, why are you letting them lead it? This episode will make you rethink everything you thought about accountability, discipline, and what real love actually looks like. Because the Michael Jacksons of the world don't come from soft coaching. They come from Joe Jacksons who refuse to let talent stay in Gary, Indiana. If you've been wondering why the people you're pouring into aren't growing, this conversation is your answer. Stop Catherine-ing people who need to be Joe Jackson-ed. *Timestamps:* 🔒 *This Is What Patreon Members Get...* Unscripted conversations. Behind the scenes moments. Live Q&As. ET's speech streams. This is the version of S2S where nothing gets cut. If you want in: 👉 Join the S2S Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/S2SPodcast120 🔔 *Subscribe so you never miss an episode:* 👉 https://www.youtube.com/@S2SPodcastChannel?sub_confirmation=1 📲 *Follow us on Instagram:* @s2spodcast 🎙️ *Listen on Apple Podcasts:* https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/secret-to-success/id123456789 🎤 *Next Level Speakers Conference:* June 5-7, Atlanta, Georgia. If you know you're supposed to be speaking, training, or elevating your personal brand, this is where you need to be. ET, CJ, Karl, Inky Johnson, Jeremy Anderson and more. Early bird tickets on sale now: https://nextlevelspeakersconference.com *About the Secret to Success Podcast* The Secret to Success (S2S) Podcast is hosted by Eric Thomas (ET, The Hip Hop Preacher), Karl Phillips, CJ Quinney, and Jemal King. For over a decade, S2S has been one of the most authentic voices in personal development — not because of polished scripts, but because of real stories, real conversations, and real results. Every episode pulls back the curtain on what it actually takes to build wealth, sustain relationships, grow businesses, and become who you were created to be. No hype. No filters. Just four men who've lived it, telling the truth about how they got there. _Secret to Success is hosted by Eric Thomas, Karl Phillips, CJ Quinney, and Jemal King._
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