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    What is the motherhood penalty, and who benefits from pitting women against each other? Reshma Saujani joins me to break down the cultural and structural forces shaping women's ambition, motherhood, money, and power. Reshma is a leading advocate for women's economic power, the founder of Girls Who Code and Moms First, and the force behind the new documentary No Country for Mothers. After helping change the culture around girls in technology, she's turned her attention to the policies and assumptions that keep pushing women, especially mothers, out of the workforce. We get into the real cost of childcare, paid leave, and workplace inflexibility; why mothers are still penalized for showing up as their full selves at work; and how the internet turned "trad wife vs. girl boss" into a culture war that keeps women fighting each other instead of fighting for real change. In this episode, Reshma and I discuss: · Who benefits from pitting women against each other · The motherhood penalty and why it differs from the gender pay gap · What real workplace support for women and mothers should actually look like · Why fighting for a better system and taking responsibility for your life can both be true · What it takes to create more choice, freedom, and economic power for women · How to build a world women don't have to shrink their lives to fit Don't forget to subscribe so you never miss an episode 💛 -https://www.youtube.com/@EmmaGrede?sub_confirmation=1 #ReshmaSaujani #GirlsWhoCode #MomsFirst #EmmaGrede #MotherhoodPenalty #WomenInBusiness #PaidLeave 0:00 Introduction 1:42 Who Reshma is and what she's taking on 5:01 Why childcare isn't rocket science 11:39 Where she and Emma disagree 14:51 Flexibility vs how you show up 18:43 Ad Break 22:41 Raising independent kids 29:23 The origin of Girls Who Code 34:16 What happens when mothers walk out 37:47 What we actually want for women 40:10 Ad Break 44:51 Advice for the woman at home 51:00 Know your market rate 53:42 The birth rate and the cost of motherhood 57:28 Ad Break 1:00:21 Paid leave is about the economy 1:08:44 Bringing men into the conversation 1:13:06 Rapid Fire _____ Emma's book START WITH YOURSELF is out now — grab your copy at https://www.emmagrede.com/ or wherever books are sold. _____ ABOUT ASPIRE WITH EMMA GREDE Build the life of your dreams and learn from the world's most successful people. Emma Grede, one of America's richest self-made women, wants you to make the most of your life. On 'Aspire with Emma Grede', learn through thought-provoking conversations with some of the most successful and smartest minds on the planet, including goop founder Gwyneth Paltrow, investor, philanthropist and former chair of Starbucks, Mellody Hobson, podcast host Jay Shetty, billionaire entrepreneur and Shark Tank star Mark Cuban, rapper and cultural icon Cardi B, fashion mogul Kimora Lee Simmons, actress and entrepreneur Issa Rae, bestselling author and motivational powerhouse Mel Robbins, and public luminaries like Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, Charlamagne Tha God, Jessica Alba, former First Lady Michelle Obama, and Netflix Co-CEO Ted Sarandos. Each episode will unpack their habits, philosophy, and strategies, covering career advice, well-being, psychology, and, of course, how to win in business. The show offers personal stories, data-driven advice, real-world strategies, and the experience you need to turn your dreams into reality. LISTEN TO ASPIRE WITH EMMA GREDE link.pscrb.fm/f0281/Aspire_YT _______ ABOUT EMMA GREDE Emma Grede is a founding partner and chief product officer of SKIMS and CEO of Good American. She also made history as the first Black woman to serve as an investor on Shark Tank. Learn more at: https://www.emmagrede.com/
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